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September 17, 2026
Episode Number
665

From $1.6B CMO to Executive Advisor with Marcus Phillips

Are you a high-performing corporate executive, VP, or C-suite officer who has achieved massive success, yet feels a quiet, steady pull toward building something you completely own? In this powerful guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Marcus Phillips, executive advisor, keynote speaker, author, and creator of The Zone Shift. Marcus pulls back the curtain on his 18-year corporate trajectory, culminating as the Chief Marketing Officer of a $1.6B global business unit spanning five continents. He candidly breaks down what happens when you step away from enterprise prestige, revealing why the hardest part of leaving corporate life isn't the financial loss, but overcoming "identity lag" the gap between who you have become and the role you're still performing as. Discover how to leverage core corporate skills like empathy and resilience, navigate AI-driven enterprise changes, and build alternative ventures on a solid foundation without unnecessarily burning the boats.
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September 15, 2026
Episode Number
664

How Executives Navigate New Life Seasons and Build Optionality

Are you an overachieving director, VP, or senior corporate leader experiencing a shift in your personal or professional life, feeling the persistent itch to build an asset you completely own? In this reflective solo episode, host Billy Keels shares a powerful story from a family celebration along the Hudson Bay looking over the New York City skyline—a true "balcony moment" that crystallized why career designs must continuously adapt to life's changing seasons. Whether you're navigating new promotions, international moves, college-bound children, aging parents, or shifting compensation plans, your priorities naturally evolve. Drawing on the ancient wisdom of Heraclitus—the only constant in life is change—Billy breaks down why you do not need 100% of the answers or complete readiness to start building a side venture. Discover how to turn passive contemplation into intentional action, leverage your executive experience, and create a lifestyle where you show up to your career entirely by choice.
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September 10, 2026
Episode Number
663

Shifting from Hours to Outcomes: How Tech Dads Trade Overwhelm for Presence - Derek Schutz

Are you a senior corporate leader, director, or enterprise tech VP who has climbed to a high-paying salary, yet you find yourself completely exhausted from putting 60 to 70 hours a week into the machine? In this transparent guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Derek Schutz—a senior director leading a massive services team and a multimillion-dollar account portfolio at a market-leading enterprise software brand. Derek pulls back the curtain on his own profound personal wake-up call, sharing how the compounding physical and psychological stress of corporate "busyness" led him to completely audit his calendar capital. Discover how to utilize corporate execution principles—like tracking lead measures instead of lag measures—to compress your working schedule down to a high-impact 40 hours. Learn how to have direct, proactive conversations with your management team to establish unbreakable professional boundaries, and see how to parlay your enterprise leadership capital into an independent, highly rewarding side project completely by choice, not obligation.
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September 8, 2026
Episode Number
662

Move 37: How to Shatter Corporate Limiting Beliefs with a Beginner’s Mind

Are you an overachieving sales leader, director, or enterprise tech executive feeling trapped by the assumption that your only choices are grinding up the rigid corporate ladder or risking everything by walking away? In this thought-provoking solo episode, host Billy Keels explores the profound lessons hidden inside Rick Rubin's book The Creative Act: A Way of Being, drawing a direct parallel between modern career design and the legendary board game Go, a game played for over 3,000 years. Billy breaks down the famous "Move 37" executed by DeepMind’s AlphaGo artificial intelligence, a move so unprecedented that it shocked the world's greatest master because it completely ignored 30 centuries of human limiting beliefs. Discover how adopting a true beginner’s mind (innocent ignorance) allows you to strip away standard corporate conditioning, break free from conventional linear promotion steps, and execute your own "Move C,” allowing you to continuously overperform in your corporate role while simultaneously building a high-impact, independent side venture that puts you in complete control of your time and income.
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May 8, 2021
35 MIN

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About Your Host -

Billy Keels

I'm just a regular guy from a middle-class family from Columbus, Ohio, who grew up knowing nothing about investing. When I started to become successful in my career, I had no idea how to invest my high salary. I was too embarrassed to ask because I felt like I “should’ve” already known. I remember hearing colleagues talking about being “accredited investors” and giving them fake nods like I knew who they were talking about.

From that point on I gave myself the challenge of learning everything I could about all things money and investing. My mission was to turn my high wages into financial freedom. 8 years later, I achieved it: I created a monthly passive income that met all of my expenses. I no longer had to work if I didn’t want to.

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